I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of our members for their help and cooperation during my tenure as
president of the PNDC. You all made my term in office a pleasurable time.
It is my hope that with our newly elected officers that our organization will grow and become stronger.
I am looking forward to the coming show season. I do so enjoy going to our shows and renewing friendships and of
course making new dahlia friends.
Again, my thanks and best wishes and my pledge for support to our new officers.
Gosh, All I did was not vigorously protest, and here I am your new President Elect! Bill Swanstrom referred to this
as the "deer in the headlights" syndrome, which he also experienced first hand.
This is your organization. With your help, we can move it forward together into the future. I know our next Vice-
President, Ted Kennedy, has suggested some educational workshops. I think this will be interesting and valuable
to many of our members. What aspects of dahlia growing are of most interest for topics at workshops? Dahlia
genetics? The varied techniques of dahlia crossing? Pest management? What topics would make YOU want to
come to a workshop? Please send me an e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org and make your opinion count.
Vice President Elect
We are working on having a yearly PNDC workshop for both judges and especially interested club members. The
PNDC has historically sponsored shows and judging seminars but has not sponsored activities for the general club
member who is more interested in dahlias and dahlia culture than judging subjects. I would envision having subject
material being mostly general interest subjects but also including some judging material. I would propose
alternating each year between a Northern and Southern Site for the workshop. I propose that we try to have the
Southern workshop as our first one and I believe that Eugene, Oregon is ideally situated. We would have the
workshop in the month of March on a Saturday from about 9AM to about 3PM. Possible subjects could include
dahlia breeding, dahlia genetics, cut flower production, dahlia tuber and plant auction and sale, cultural techniques
such as growing show flowers, transporting show flowers, making show baskets, doing flower arrangements, pests
and pest management, soil and fertilizer, virus, irrigation techniques and any thing else that would be dahlia related.
From the Secretary
I hope everyone's dahlias are growing better than mine! The Victoria society’s president has moved to Cobble Hill,
over the Malahat to have more room for his dahlias. His new phone is 250-743-4562 and he is an accredited judge.
I hope that every society has noted the special offer from the ADS for new members, July and Dec. bulletins and
next year for the same yearly price. A good deal. See you all in Portland.
ADS Image Library
Summer is flying by so be sure and get some good photos of new introductions to send to me for the New
Introduction program. Send images of those dahlias that passed in a trial garden or seedling bench evaluation. If
you want to send other photos of dahlias that did not go through a trial garden or seedling bench that are being
introduced, there will be a $10 charge for each additional photo. Payment should be sent with the images.
Make a check out to ADS. This change was approved by the ADS Executive Board in a teleconference July 13th,
2008. These photos will be at the end of the new introduction program and will be separate from the dahlias that
did go through a trial garden or seedling bench. The release form and data sheet will be published in the
September ADS Bulletin. Please send images to me by November 1st, 2008. This gives me plenty of time to create
the program and have it ready to send out by January 1st.
If you want to send the images sooner then the Bulletin is printed, include information about name, classification
information and originator and retailer and your permission to use the images.
Current dvds available are 2007 ADS Photo Contest Winners, 2007 Fabulous Fifty Dahlias, and past New
Introductions for 2005, 2006 and 2007. Cost is $13 which includes shipping.
A New slide program available is Dahlia Gold - top 50 dahlias for 2007.
Societies requesting slide programs will not be charged for the slide rental. However individuals requesting slides
for other reasons i.e. Master Gardener programs, or outside of dahlia society meetings, will be charged a rental
fee for slides of $13.
If you have any questions about programs available both slides and dvds, please contact me at
email@example.com or 3332 W. Elmhurst Ave, Spokane, WA. 99208. My phone is 509-326-1953.
We are extremely sad to report that our most senior member, Stella Newbom, passed away on May 31, 2008 at age
101. She was a charter member of the Seattle Dahlia Society since its inception nearly 52 years ago and would
have been age 102 in August this year.
Mrs. Newbom was born Stella Kuntz in Roslyn, Washington, in 1906, to parents who immigrated to the United States
from Europe (her mother came from Krakow, Poland, and her father from Austria). After graduating from
Sunnyside High School (Washington State) and, later, Hall’s Business College in Seattle, she was employed in the
legal profession in Sunnyside. She continued to use her shorthand throughout her life (now a lost art), especially
for jotting down recipes. Not only did she hail from the “sunny side” of Washington State, she served as the
“Sunshine Chairwoman” of the Seattle Dahlia Society for over 30 years!
She came to Seattle to further her career and it was here that she met Henry (Hank) Newbom, an obviously
energetic young man with his own baseball team and a great WSU Cougar supporter. He spent his working years
with the Seattle Post Intelligencer.
After her marriage Stella taught piano lessons and enjoyed catering elegant events. In addition, she began her
own flower business, growing beautiful blooms of all kinds for upscale flower shops like Crissy’s. From her home in
Broadview, Post Intelligencer Delivery Boys would even sell her flowers from door to door.
After being smitten with the dahlias at the Puyallup Fair Horticultural Display about 1950, it wasn’t long before she
and Hank became founding members of the Seattle Dahlia Society.
She laughingly remembered making her first basket for the First Seattle Dahlia Society Show in competition with
veteran dahlia exhibitor Bess Owens. She recalled the pioneers of our society as a group of “happy little farmers.”
Hank developed several dahlias over the years and Stella fondly remembered the BB White Cactus Dahlia
“Estralitia” he named after her. She appreciated the dahlia in all its sizes, forms and colors and one of her very
favorite blooms was Chilson’s Pride.. Although Hank passed away some time ago, Stella continued to plant, grow
and dig more than 50 dahlias every year and to make gorgeous, award-winning baskets for our annual shows
(including a basket of Chilson’s Pride, of course).
All of her many friends from the dahlia world and from our society will miss her gentle, optimistic spirit in addition to
her enthusiasm and commitment to the dahlia.
Point Scoring of Seedlings
The following comments were inspired by discussions with two truly expert judges over the period of several years:
Mr. Dick Parshall and Mr. Wayne Shantz. With their wives, they are responsible for training of judges in the
Federation and the PNDC, respectively. I thank them for their inputs and feel privileged to consider them friends.
Their influence and my own experience in judging seedlings lead me to suggest this extension of the ADS “Guide to
Judging Dahlias” (GJD). It is my hope that this interpretation can help judges, particularly relatively new judges,
translate the official manual to actual practice in judging seedlings.
For me, one of the most difficult portions of training new judges is effectively communicating how severely to
penalize an entry for a fault. It is relatively easy to teach and to learn what kinds of physical characteristics
comprise a fault. Observations of an irregular center or lack of symmetry or the presence of fading or a wolf petal
or the presence of a spur leaf or a crooked stem or almost any of the things we consider defects involve skills that
are pretty easily acquired by an interested judge. On the other hand, translating the observation to a point
deduction has been, at least for me, a more difficult concept to capture.
On page 53 of the GJD, we are told that it may be useful for the judge to consider each characteristic on the
scorecard as if it were 100 points and that we should consider 85% as a passing score for each specific
characteristic. The following procedures are based on that suggestion.
Perhaps the key concept to grasp here is that there is a huge difference in taking a two point deduction for form
and taking a two point deduction for foliage. In the case of the form penalty, 2 points reflect a penalty of about 7%,
or a score of 93% for form, well above the pass/fail criterion of 85. On the other hand for foliage, a 2-point penalty
translates to a 20% deduction or a score of 80%, well below the criterion for success.
There is one more concept that is useful in putting this idea into practice; that is a sense of what level of faults
comprises a successful (85%) characteristic. My conclusion in that regard is that a score of 85 should reflect a
characteristic with no more than a few minor faults. If you observe a major color fault, for example, or many minor
color faults, the entry should probably not achieve a passing score for color. Obviously, the judge still needs to
determine whether his observations are of a major or a minor fault, so “judgment” and, especially, experience are
still thoroughly involved!
I have used the following tables to help make these comparisons meaningful in practice. The first one suggests
that for each characteristic, i.e., color, form, etc., the judge should determine the presence of the absence of faults
and their severity. With that observation in hand, he or she then checks this first table to determine the
approximate value for the percentage score for that attribute.
Observations of Characteristics
Observation Rating Score
No Faults Perfect 100%
A Minor Fault Excellent 90+%
Minor Faults Passing 85%
A Major or Many Minor Faults Failing 80-%
One Severe or Several Major Faults Very Poor 70%
The following second table then provides the deduction that would be appropriate for that level of rating of the
characteristic. For example, if you were to observe several relatively subtle form defects in the entry, you would be
guided in the above table to provide a passing score for form and, in the following table, you would see that a
deduction of the order of 4 points, or less, would correspond to a passing score for form. Similarly, if your
observations showed that the only problem with the foliage was that the leaves were close, but not exactly, opposite
one another, you might conclude that it is almost perfect. The foregoing table would suggest a rating of 90% or
more and the following table would suggest a deduction of a maximum of 1 point for foliage.
Rating Percent 28 22 15 10 5
Perfect 100% 0 0 0 0 0
Excellent 90% -2.8 -2.2 -1.5 -1 -.5
Passing 85% -4.2 -3.3 -2.25 -1.5 -.75
Failing 80% -5.6 -4.4 -3 -2 -1
Very Poor 70% -8.4 -6.6 -4.5 -3 -1.5
Perhaps the key advantage of using these tables in the evaluation of a seedling is the addition of an element of
discipline to the process. The tables lead to appropriate levels of points from both the high value and the low value
I hope that you are by now asking yourself something along the lines of “But what about distinction!” If so,
congratulations, you’ve captured the essence of the argument because our instructions for distinction are quite
different from the foregoing discussion. If we were simply to extrapolate the logic we’ve been discussing on the
other characteristics, we would expect a passing value for Distinction to be 85% of 5 or 4.25. How would you
expect a passing (85%) cultivar to perform in a show situation? Perhaps you would say it would be an occasional
winner in its class or you might say that it would be a frequent winner in its class. If you check the current
scorecard, however, you will see that in order to reach a passing score of 85% in distinction, the cultivar needs to
be judged between “section winner, may win higher” (at -1) and “potential for higher awards” (at -0). It does not
seem reasonable to me that a passing score for distinction requires the cultivar to be assessed as being a section
winner or better. Consequently, in my judging seminars, I try to make it clear to the participants that they are going
to treat the candidate cultivar pretty severely when they get to distinction, so they may want to be a little forgiving
where it is possible to do so on the rest of the scorecard. It may be appropriate, in the future, to make changes to
the treatment of distinction in order to be able to avoid that adjustment.
In summary, when you are part of a team that is point scoring seedlings, keep in mind that you want to assess each
characteristic in the context of pass or fail criteria. Penalties that correspond to “passing” values vary significantly
among the seedling characteristics. The tables in this article are designed to help you to keep those pass/fail
penalties in mind.
This is my first year as the Judges Evaluations Committee Chair and I am hoping to get a good response to the
letter and forms that were sent out earlier this spring. If you have misplaced the forms, new copies may be
downloaded from the PNDC web site.
In order for me to do my job properly and for all get credit for this years judging, I need to have your reports sent
to me not later than Ocotber 1. Rule of thumb is if you have not sent in your reports every year, by the 3rd year of
me not receiving one, you will be dropped from the ADS list of participating judges. So, in order to avoid that
confusion, please fill them out and mail them in to me as quickly as you can after show season. I can only report
what I get back from you.
Thank you in advance.
Colorado Dahlia Society
As you probably know, ADS memberships provide most of the financial support for the American Dahlia Society.
What you may not appreciate is that over 90% of ADS memberships originate from local societies.
In a recent letter to the ADS Executive Board, Alan Fisher the ADS Membership Chairman stated: “Business is bad
in many sectors this year, and ADS memberships are also down. Membership is down nearly 180 from this time
last year. We should have our poorest membership year in nearly a decade.”
So, we have some serious ground to be made up and there is no magic to building membership other than to make
growing ADS Membership an important objective for each society and then putting in the effort and energy to make
memberships happen. And, if there is any secret to building membership, it is to identify and ‘delegate’
membership responsibility to a personable volunteer who will pick up the challenge and run with it.
Actually, there are tools available that can assist in the membership building process, but they are of no use if they
aren’t used. Show season starts in less than two weeks and now is the time to look over these tools and get ready
to use them.
ADS MEMBERSHIP DEAL
I don’t know how many of you are aware of this, but each year the American Dahlia Society offers a
Summertime/Showtime deal on new ADS memberships.
Summertime/Showtime Special for August and September 2008.
Pay now for 2009 and get the remainder of 2008, starting with the June 2008
issue of the ADS Bulletin as our gift. $23 individual; $26 family for North America.
This membership deal is promoted on the ADS website where it is targeted toward and priced for At-Large
Memberships including memberships in affiliated local societies. However, any participating local society can offer
these new ADS memberships at the lower society rate as long as they are submitted through the local ADS
For local societies that do not require all members to be ADS members, this is a great time to encourage your non-
ADS members to upgrade and get a little something extra (including the 2009 Classification Book) in the process.
And, for local societies that do require all members to belong to the ADS, the summertime special provides an
additional incentive to act now rather than later.
Few visitors to your show are going to sign right up for a membership, but every visitor to your show is there
because of some interest in dahlias. The objective then is to establish longer term connections with these visitors.
Dahlia-Alert was designed with connections in mind and does this quite well. For more information on why and how
to use Dahlia-Alert go to: http://dahlias.net/WhyDahliaAlert.htm
Dahlias in Contemporary Society
Dahlia gardening may be in a state of transition. The Lane County Dahlia Society has found in recent days that
gardeners are much more conscious about their environment. Consequently, the society under the able leadership
of Lexa Cookson has focused programs on more friendly ways of nurturing the dahlia. The approach has increased
attendance at meetings and membership to the point that it now has over 100 members. A general excitement
exists at the meetings and good fellowship and mingling has become commonplace.
I have come to some personal conclusions as well. My usual approach was to depend on a chemical program in
order to grow prize-winning dahlias. This year I softened my approach and spread 50-pound bags of Steers Plus
manure, the plus being an addition of chicken and horse manure, all of which had been composted by a local
gardening and mulching business. I have seen few weeds because of the amendment, but have noticed that my
plants are growing better than usual. A major influence in my changed view, Steve Nowotarski of the Mid-Island
Dahlia Society, has gone totally organic this year and feels that he is just as competitive in shows as he was when
he relied on chemicals. What is important to know is that he competes at a high level and does not stand for
second best. In future articles, both in the ADS Bulletin and other dahlia publications, he will spell out his program.
I intend to listen to his observations.
Starting this year, I will summer fallow one-half of my garden. The next year I will plant in the rested soil and summer
fallow the part on which my plants grow this year. Although I will not plant a green crop this year on the summer
fallow, I will supply organic material to the soil next year.
I have come to think that plants are not too much different than people. Some people have much more immunity to
viruses than others. As a teacher, I suspect that I developed immunity to disease. Students would come into the
classroom coughing or generally feverish and I remained in good health. In short, I looked after my physical and
This past year I began a new program for my dahlias. When they reached six to ten inches tall, I drenched them
with Messenger, an enzyme product purchased at a local gardening center. To drench the plants was somewhat
expensive, but I knew from using it last year that the plants had a strength that they had not had in prior years.
After the initial drenching, I would spray Messenger on my dahlias with a misting sprayer. This process was much
less expensive than the drenching. What I found is that I did not see near the number of aphids and spider mites
that I had encountered with the old chemical prevention program. Neither did I encounter mildew as early as I had in
the past. Still, I had to pass when it came to cucumber beetles. They chomped just as voraciously as before. I also
top dressed the ground after planting with a kelp fertilizer acquired from a Coos Bay, Oregon garden store.
This year I will also spray with manure tea, a product I have purchased from a company near Seattle. I believe that I
will again provide my plants with a strength that will allow them to resist viruses and many plant pests. Time will tell.
What I have written is a strategy in progress. It will not be perfect. Still, I think it behooves us as dahlia lovers to
share with each other when we find something that will lift dahlia husbandry to a higher level.
From the Societies
Happy Summer to all! We here in Spokane are relishing in the fact the weather has FINALLY turned out nice. Our
spring was the coldest and wettest we have had in years, some of it in the form of snow all the way into late April.
The Trial Garden is in and the VA Garden is planted and our summer picnic is July 26th. As soon as the picnic is
over we really get into the show planning etc.
On June 28th we lost our last surviving charter member Walter Hoppe. He was 82 and so active it was a total shock
to us and a great loss. Walter was first and foremost a gentleman! He tutored and encouraged many dahlia
enthusiasts over the years and won many awards for his flowers and was even awarded the PNDC Gold Medal
some years back. His passing will be felt by us for many years to come.
With gas prices so high we know we will not see many of you at our show September 13th and14th , but please
know you are all welcome to come show and judge. Entry forms are available and if you need one or wish to judge
or clerk, please contact Joni Beasley firstname.lastname@example.org or our President Greg Smith (both addresses and
phones are listed in the PNDC roster). The Trial Garden is in need of judging also, so if you come thru town we
would be pleased if you could stop and help us out there as well.
Inland Empire Trial Garden 2008
There are 37 entries in the garden this year. All are doing well and the majority are in bloom all ready and it’s only
the 16th of July as I write this. Starting them in a greenhouse has made all the difference this year as the spring
was cold, wet and snowy. It had barely begun to warm up when we had the planting.
With the passing of many of our judges in the last few years we are in need of a large commitment from the judges
we do have to complete the judging process. We are encouraging the Senior Judges to do all 37 in the garden so
that a better and more comprehensive report can be sent as in past years. We really like to have a minimum of 6
scores for each of the entries. If the photos that accompanied the entries are any indication we should be able to
pass a high percentage.
Thank you to the growers that have sent entries to the Trial Garden over the years and this year as well.
Seattle Dahlia Society
The Seattle Dahlia Society is in the midst of tying up all of the loose ends in preparation for our 2008 show. Once
again our show will be held at the Lake City Community Center at 12531 28th Ave. N. E., Seattle. Our show dates
this year are August 30 &31. We invite all dahlia growers to bring your blooms, judge or clerk or just come and
renew old acquaintances.
We were most fortunate this year to be able to have Wayne and Eleanor Shantz lead a class for our society on
August 2nd and 3rd. We had sixteen members in attendance. The class was most informative as always for all
including the six new candidates and the accredited and senior judges. This should give us a jump start for the up
coming show season.
We are most saddened to report that our last charter member has passed from us. Stella Newbom was 101 years
of age and up until the last months of her life she lived alone, kept her house and yard, planted her dahlias each
year and looked forward to attending and entering flowers in at least one show each year. Stella was active in the
society and rarely missed a meeting, a picnic or a Christmas Party. She will be missed by all.
The weather seems to have stabilized finally and the dahlias are finally growing and starting to bloom. MaTny of us
did not believe that would happen this year!
The Seattle Dahlia Society sends our best regards to all and our fondest wish that each of you have a great
growing and showing year.
We would also take this opportunity to thank the many of our friends and growers from Canada who have
committed to travel to Seattle to show and judge in our show again this year, their presence always makes our
show a great success!
Lane County Dahlia Society
Hello from the LCDS! Once again, our Society has had a very busy Spring. We Began with our April Tuber Sale
and Auction, and quickly followed that with 2 additional tuber sales in May. The LCDS would like to thank our
friends in the SODS & the DCDS who generously donated tubers and pictures for our
Sales .Your efforts once again allowed us to have some very successful
fund raising events. We truly couldn't do it without your help!
Our June meeting featured a talk on general dahlia planting and growing by 3 LCDS experts - Wayne Shantz, Art
Redfern, & Sonja Hall. We had a crowd of 49 folks in attendance that night, who were treated to clever gardening
gadgets, timely planting tips and a "last-chance" tuber sale. On Saturday, July 12th, we enjoyed our Annual
Members Potluck at the home and gardens of Jack and Sandy Olson. It was a relaxing evening, full of great food
and a tour of Jack's incredible gardens. Everyone went home that night equally
impressed with Jack's plantings and his energy level! As the end of July quickly approaches, many members are
seeing the first dahlia blooms open in their gardens. That can only mean one thing - the show
season is just around the corner! We encourage everyone to mark your calendar for the weekend of September
13-14th and join us in Eugene at the Oakway Center. Our Flower of the Year is Valley Porcupine. I hope that you
can join us and make this years show the best ever.
Have a Wonderful Summer and take some time to introduce someone new to
the joys of dahlia growing!
Portland Dahlia Society
With a successful season of sales behind us, the time arose to start planting our crops. Finally, it appears that our
dahlias in the Portland and SW Washington area have recovered from the abnormally cold spring weather. Two
members brought bouquets to our meeting in early July and others are reporting getting bloom. Hopefully, gardens
will be ablaze with color for our upcoming events.
First, after getting soaked with rain on our traditional late September garden tour date last year, we agreed to have
our tour early this year, on Sunday, August 17. Ironic it is that this is the year we are having a problem with late
blooms! In case you haven’t heard, gas prices have gone up a bit, so we decided to contain our tour to a specific
region within our membership area, the Vancouver area. Several of our most avid growers hail from that area, so if
you want to join us, check our website at www.portlanddahlia.com for the itinerary (it will be in our August
newsletter, The Bulletin).
A couple of weeks later, make sure to join us at the Clackamas County Fairgrounds on Labor Day weekend August
30-31, as we host the PNDC Show. Entries will be accepted Friday night and Saturday morning. Directions to the
fairgrounds are posted on our website. The PNDC Banquet will be held at the Canby Grove on the 30th at 6:30 p.
m. Cost is $16 per person, gratuity included. Some of our members have eaten there before and say the food and
atmosphere is outstanding. Those attending may pay our treasurer, Larry Sawyer. For more information, including
the menu, check our website.
On the weekend of our show, all judges in town are urged to attend the Swan Island Dahlia Festival and also judge
the new varieties growing in the Canby Trial Garden there. This is located only about 3 miles from our show site.
There will also be a class for judges given at the Trial Garden on Sunday a.m., August 31, regarding seedling
evaluation and judging. Gordon Jackman will teach the point system for evaluating seedlings, show how to use the
color chart, how to measure the various parts of the flower, and how to evaluate the blooms for distinction.
At our July meeting, members voted on and confirmed two new Life Memberships. Phil Mingus has been a
promoter and hybridizer of dahlias for many years and also is a past President and Board Member. Bill Mishler has
also developed a number of excellent new varieties, served on our board, and has been instrumental in starting
and running the Canby Trial Garden. Both have supported our club, PNDC, and other clubs in ways too numerous
to list in a short news article
SOUTHERN OREGON DAHLIA SOCIETY
After a wet, cold, long winter Southern Oregon Dahlia Society members are back in their gardens working to make
up for the late start to spring. Ordinarily our dahlias may be planted early to mid April. This year many of us had to
plant much later. July has brought sun and warmth and the dahlias have responded with rapid growth. Some who
dared to plant early already have bloom.
Thanks to the contributions and teamwork of the SODS membership we had another successful and well organized
tuber sale. Over 2000 tubers were donated, packaged, labeled and sorted for this annual event. Excess tubers
were donated locally and regionally and we all found space for a few more.
At the June meeting Ginger Clack was our featured guest. Ginger shared her award winning techniques for
creating dahlia arrangements. All who attended were happy they did.
Many of our members are looking forward to August 9th when Wayne and Eleanor Shantz will be holding judging
school in Roseburg, Oregon. If you ever have the opportunity to attend a class taught by these two exceptional
teachers, do not miss it. Not only will you learn a great deal you will come away inspired.
We invite you to bring your blooms and participate in our 52nd Annual Show September 6th and 7th. Flower of the
year is My Beverly and the Challenge Flower is Kenora Challenger. For more information contact Paulette (541)
Southern Oregon wishes everyone a wonderful dahlia season.
Victoria Dahlia Society
Things are progressing well as we approach our Show weekend August 15 and 16. at the Hillside Mall. We have
gained a few new members and usually manage to pick up a few at the Show. We have info sheets that we hand
out and always have members to answer questions from the public . The growing season is probably three weeks
behind in our area as we had a very cool spring. I have some in bloom and some two inches out of the ground.
Even our serious commercial growers are wondering how there giong to fill wedding orders etc. The month of
August will see us hold our General Meeting outdoors at one of our members farm and also our club Barbeque at
another members large property. So nothing but fun here in Victoria.
Regional Vice President ADS
It looks like the Federation results were not far off from the PNDC.
Report to the Classification Committee of the American Dahlia Society and the Executive Board
Re: Proposed 4 digit Classification System
The Federation of Northwest Dahlia Growers Summer Workshop was held on July 19, 2008. There were
approximately seventy participants at the Workshop. The afternoon session of the Workshop was devoted to the
proposed 4 digit Classification System. First an overview of both the current 3 digit Classification System and the
proposed 4 digit Classification System was presented to the entire group. After the initial presentation the larger
group was broken into three smaller discussion groups. The three discussion groups were moderated by one
individual, to keep everyone on track, and were given a series of questions as the basis for their discussions. Most
of the questions were copied from an email by Bob Miller of the Pacific Northwest Conference dated 6/16/2008.
The moderators of the discussion groups were asked to poll the members of their groups and to solicit comments
related to each question.
Following is the questions that were asked and the summary of the polling:
1. I would be in favor of adopting the newly proposed four digit class numbering system thus allowing for more
flexibility as new color or form classes are approved for use.
(4 %) strongly disagree (4%) mildly disagree (27%) neutral (38%) mildly agree (27%) strongly agree
2. I would be in favor of breaking out incurve cactus from straight cactus, allowing them to compete in their own
(0%) strongly disagree (2%) mildly disagree (12%) neutral (31%) mildly agree (56%) strongly agree
3. I would be in favor of creating a novelty color class for dahlias with novel colors or combinations of colors; e.
g., Ebony Star, Hollyhill Six-in-One, variegated bicolor combinations or random expression of color as in Hollyhill
Joker's Wild or Little Clown.
(65%) strongly disagree (10%) mildly disagree (8%) neutral (6%) mildly agree (12%) strongly agree
4. I would be in favor of further separation of varieties currently in the light blend class, grouping those with or
without white or as some have suggested with or without yellow in their own separate color classes.
(69%) strongly disagree (20%) mildly disagree (4%) neutral (8%) mildly agree (0%) strongly agree
5. A suggestion has been made to change our size classifications so they are in terms that the general public
has a better understanding of- for example all AA dahlias would be referred to as Giant dahlias and in the
classification book the abbreviation for Giant dahlias would be GI. All the other size classifications would also
change and new abbreviations assigned to the other size classes (refer to Page 8 of the Classification Book). I
would favor such a change.
(28%) strongly disagree (15%) mildly disagree (22%) neutral (9%) mildly agree (26%) strongly agree
The following are the comments that were generated by the discussion groups (they are grouped according to the
Pain for the person doing the classification book
Philosophy is good – categories may need tweaking
Easier for people to learn/understand
Revise the proposed classification system so there are no leading zeros
Do away with bronze and replace with orange or gold
May need to redo the current ADS Color Chart
Strongly want blue and green to go away
No room to expand stellar, waterlilly and novelty closed center into size classes
Why not put the new colors (black, blue, green, etc.) at the end of the chart
Revise the colors so they are in order as they are seen in the color spectrum
Put NX and NO together and allow room for additional sizes
With the advent of computers why do we need a number based classification system
No need to separate tri-colors
The format for listing tri-colors could be color/color/color, starting with the dominate color and then the
There are some brown dahlias
What will be the cost to individuals and clubs to make the changes
If broken out, may have more ICs in the shows
Public seems to like IC dahlias
Could complicate judging
Could be confusing
Need more information about the definition for novelty color,
Could become a dumping ground for poor color
Call it "unique" color instead of novelty color
Why does it need to be changed?
Would this change affect white dahlias with a blush
Complexity with adding another color class
Why does this need to change?
Get in touch with the rest of the world
Changing the abbreviations may not make a difference, public wants the inches
Agree with names (giant, etc.) instead of AA, etc.
The problem stems from when AA and BB were added as sizes, change the order of the sizes would eliminate
the current confusion, change from AA-A-B-BB-M to A-AA-B-BB-M
When at the a dahlia show we should communicate with the general public in terms that are commonly
From the results of our discussion groups it appears the participants are in favor of the concept of the 4 digit
Classification System and can see the benefits of adopting such a system. However there are a number of
changes that will be needed before the 4 digit classification system will win acceptance. Based on the comments
above the most important changes that need to be made are:
Eliminate the blue and green color classes
Definitions for the Tricolor and Novelty color classes need to be drafted and approved before they should be
added as color classes
All the new color classes including black should added to the end of the list of color classes
Provide room so the waterlillies and stellars can be divided according to size (Stellar 6000-6019, Waterlily 6400-
6419, Novelty Double 6900-6919; Novelty Open 7900-7919)
Eliminate the leading zeros by started the AA with 1000 (computer programs such as Excel will drop the leading
zero unless you know how to do custom formatting)
Regarding the question about the size classification and whether we should continue with the current system (AA,
A, B, etc.) or adopt a new system (Giant, Large, Medium, etc.) it was pretty much an even split either way.
We hope that our input is valuable to the process and we look forward to continuing to help with the evolution of the
4 digit Classification System.
Brad Freeman, Federation of Northwest Dahlia Growers
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I would take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributed articles for this news letter. I could not have done it
without you. I hope to see many of you at the shows and I send my very best wishes to each and all for a great
growing and showing year. THANK YOU!
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR PNDC WEB SITE LATELY?
LOTS OF INTERESTING “STUFF” THERE.
Too Late for Hard Copy of Bulletin:
From the ADS Regional VP
By now, some of you know that I have sent my resignation as ADS Regional Vice President for the PNDC to President
Larry. I have enjoyed the contacts that I have made and will miss this part of the dahlia world. I will miss seeing the
many friends that I have made in my dahlia travels.
Several things have resulted in my decision. One of the reasons is the recent announcement by Horizon Air that they
are discontinuing service to the North Bend/Coos Bay airport. Another is the increasing security screening processes
that I must endure because of my hip replacement hardware. This coupled with the economy measures the airlines
have taken, has made air travel more onerous and more expensive.
Another reason is that I find the local societies moving away from the “grow and show” mindset that fueled my early
involvement with dahlias. Many of the current members are content to sit at home and not visit or show at other society’
s shows. They are missing many of the benefits that I found in the dahlia show circuit. I often think of Emmett Roberts
and his little red wagon as he placed many entries in shows throughout Oregon because he wanted people to see the
many faces of the dahlia and enjoy them. I will long remember the time Dan Korb returned to the Novice section of the
Eugene show where he had entered his blooms and went to work and returned to find several of his entries were
“stolen”. We suggested that he might want to check the head table. The look on his face when he found the missing
entries there was burned in my memories as one of the highlights of my dahlia experience.
I will long remember the growers of the past who welcomed newcomers and shared their knowledge of growing and
showing dahlias. The knowledge and friendship that I received from Bob Bloomfield, Earl Dalrymple, Dale Bishop and
other growers from the past will be with me for the rest of my life. I hope that the current generation of dahlia growers
can find some of this same enthusiasm and pleasure from our circle of growers.
I am pleased to see interest in starting a new club in Northern California area by Carl Young. I am pleased to hear that
Portland is looking into sponsoring a National Show in 2012. I am pleased to see the younger members in some of our
societies with their new enthusiasm and energy. I hope they will become involved at the National level and provide
guidance for the continued improvement of the ADS and the PNDC.